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No drawings. Just rough sketches and then piecing it together cut by cut.

Perfect! Glad it was helpful!

Awesome! Pontoons are the best way to spend time on the water!

It would definitely be quicker, but I’m pretty confident that EVENTUALLY the welds will crack. There’s so much flex and torque throughout all parts of a pontoon or tritoon. The hardware actually allows for some more flex without breaking.

​@@tomspontoons thank you ssoooo much for responding and answering my question. 1 more thing. My toon had a 90hp. We want to I stall a 150hp. How hard is that and can it be done

@@RHEC1776 It can be a gray area sort of thing. Following the max HP rating for your boat is the safest bet all around for the structure of your boat as well as liability. Insurance likely won't be any help in the case of an incident if you go over the HP rating for the boat. That being said, the recreational side of the USCG has zero requirements for pontoon boats in terms of weight and HP ratings from the manufacturers. The manufacturers apply a HP and weight rating based on how they built the boat and to protect themselves liability wise. If you add more buoyancy with a center pontoon and increase the structural integrity then technically you're building a boat that can handle the HP that you want, and the USCG says it's okay and you can do whatever you want on a pontoon style hull. Again, lots of gray area!! For me, I look to the industry standard and how those boats are built and sold from big boat brands. Keeping things similar to what they're doing is the best way to stay safe and keep your insurance coverage.

​@tomspontoons thank you very much for being ssoooo helpful and making awesome videos 💪💪

Who needs a day off, right? We will slow down and level out in a couple months here and be WISHING we had more projects coming in...and then fall will hit and we'll be swamped again. Not complaining, just know how the cycle goes these days!

Thank you! Turned out he's an Army Veteran too, and I think everyone knows how we like to support our military and Veterans around here. Just made it that much sweeter!

This is one of the coolest comments I've received in a long while. So glad you were able to keep the boat on the water and the kids fishing. Happy Father's Day!!

Happy to help! Thanks for watching.

Thank you so much for the kind words! We've worked hard to create a consistent and quality product for our customers over the years in an industry that's so hit and miss for reliability and quality!

Suzuki can be a little tricky because sometimes the colors of wires change from one plug to the next. However, on that ignition harness (if I am remembering correctly) you've got a big square plug on the motor side which will correspond to a similar plug on the engine side. It might be covered up by a box of electrical. I believe that's the only plug that needs to be inserted into the motor. My DF140 is a tiller, but I think it still has the same ignition harness and plug, just shorter. I will try to take a peek sometime soon. Email me if you don't find what you're looking for. We just rig so few Suzuki 140s that I haven't had the chance to make a video covering it.

Yes sir! Sun up or down, still hay to make!

Thank you!

I get emails all the time with folks telling me how they get a kick about the cavitation references! (yes, technically ventilation in most cases)

Very nice but so expensive

I’ve reached out to them as they’re a local Michigan company, but apparently they have no interest in collaborating with me! None of my customers have requested one specifically so we haven’t had our hands on one yet.

Their stuff is very pricey…seems quality, but sometimes you look at the price and the materials being used and realize the mark up is likely a bit in the aggressive side. But hey, tons of people and boat companies are buying them!

@tomspontoons Bummer! Yeah, as much as I want one, without seeing it in person it's hard to put out that cash. Seems like their orriginal design is exclusive for manufacturers... driving the consumer model price high.

@@tomspontoons Have you seen any other premium ladders. The one on my 2019 crest is fine, but there seems to be a large gap in the market between that and the Lillipad.

Can’t thank you enough!

Glad the videos have been helpful. Search my channel and playlists for Mercury control box videos. I’ve got a few when it comes to removing and re installing them. Same concepts, slightly different mechanisms for holding cables in place.

Not a whole lot that can be done other than cover plates of aluminum or marine plastics. With vinyl there are a lot of silicone color options that’ll match pretty closely to close up the holes and help make it a little prettier.

Thank you!!

The boat was really well cared for, but still starting to show its age. Seams were letting go, couple soft spots in the floor, and a layout that wasn’t great for swimming and such. They were ready to make it their own!! The whole marine industry saw price hikes like no other over the last 4 years, not that outboards weren’t expensive to begin with! However, lots of 40/50/60 four strokes being swapped out on pontoons the last couple years as folks want a little more speed. Pretty soon I think there’ll be a healthy market of good EFI four strokes used as they’ve been to go to for the last 10-20 years. Anything under 500 hours should be good to go for another 500+ from any of the four stroke manufacturers!

I would imagine you'll be running an 11" pitch propeller on that house boat. Weight and drag are the big factors, and RPM at wide open throttle is the only way to know if you're maximizing performance, fuel economy, and the health of the motor to be able to rev out as it's supposed to at higher throttle. I have not encountered any sources for center pontoons in Canada yet. I've had a couple of people reach out who used the Tri Hull LLC guys in Indiana. Those folks drove down from Canada to get the pontoons. Worth it if you're close by the border, but might not work for most others if it's too far of a drive.

@@tomspontoons, as always you’re a lifesaver. I’ll give the folks in Indiana a shout. Duty at the border can’t be helped, guess. Maybe I can snag a trailer while I’m at it. hehehe Thanks for taking the time out of your busy schedule to point me in the right direction!!

@@luisaraujo4708 Not sure how customs/duty will approach it, but you'd know more about that than me! PMI trailers isn't far away from there so grabbing a trailer just makes sense!

They really are a well built boat. I’m still yet to come across a boat manufacturer that builds them as sturdy as I would if I could build one from scratch! I guess I’ll keep restoring them and improving their construction along the way to make them last even longer.

We've got a few cameras (DJI and GoPro) but normally just grab my iPhone set to high definition and record!

That is a very heavy motor to lift manually!!! Glad the video helped you out!

I have to appreciate your honesty there....and Cori would agree that I'm dramatic!!! I will always complain when it's hot (just from sweating for 8-10 hours straight at the shop), but I try not to complain about the amount of work because I know that working on pontoons is not light work. Thanks for watching and commenting!!!

I have videos installing them on other outboards, but they're just the plug and play style on the dash. I haven't replaced one in a control box like this.

Absolutely! 12V DC is the same in both applications. My friend's brand new camper van uses a ton of the same Nilight switches and lights that we've used on boats.

Some of them are threaded into the base so you have to unthread a ways and then pull. Other styles have a black plastic push button detent towards the botton that has to be pushed in order to remove. Push, then wiggle and pull until the base comes out. If it's really stuck, there's usually one of those two mechanisms holding it in.

There are a ton of factors that can play in, but if we replace everything other than the pontoons and motor it's usually somewhere around $18K to $22K. If we add a new outboard that price can jump a lot very quickly. Still usually end up 1/2 to 2/3 the price of a new 24' pontoon!

Thank you for the kind words, and for watching!

Suzuki was the front-runner in EFI portable motors, gotta love them for that! This motor was on a Bennington 18' and used on an 80 acre lake. It's a great little setup because it gives better space than the Gill Getters or narrower style pontoons for smaller water. The boat is back with its owner so I don't have pictures of the setup...typical cruising style full of seats. They're super happy with the motor for their application. We have installed a 9.9 Suzuki on a 24' pontoon on a small no wake lake as well and they've had no complaints!

I sell them as cheap and quick as possible locally when I can to keep them out of the landfill.

Call Van's Sport Center 616-364-0666 They stock tons of good used parts including control boxes.

​@tomspontoons will do, but it would be better for me if they had an online stor because I'm from Trinidad and Tobago 🇹🇹

​@@tomspontoonsor will the yamaha ones on amazon work

@@bago4205 Be very careful with those controls. I've not had good luck with them lasting, and the local marina near me has seen several that had issues and needed to be replaced!

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Cavitation often occurs from the position of the motor in relation to the backs of the pontoons. It’s all about water flow. If you can move the motor back behind the pontoons about 16” you’ll likely get better water flow and help the issue. Or lower the motor with a jack plate if need be.

Totally agree. The logistics on it would be impossible and expensive as it’s oversized freight, even for something that weighs 50#. I’d 100% guarantee it would arrive damaged 10/10 times.

Boat is already on the water and my customer is extremely happy with the boat. You get to decide which panels face which direction to your liking on these kits. No right or wrong way, just whatever your preference.

I'm not sure exactly what you're asking? Yes, you could make it a pull pin mount at the ends if you'd like.

@@tomspontoons thank you

@@tomspontoons the bracket mounted on the rail is sticking up to tall and is cutting the boat cover. Do you guys have the brackets for the pin type

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My favorite setup is a full length center pontoon that's about 18" to 24" longer that the outer pontoons. The center pontoon should line up in the front with the outer pontoons, and the extra length should stick out behind the outer pontoons for better handling at speed and better trim response to get the bow up when cruising.

I haven't seen many kicker brackets added to pontoons. Easiest way would be to weld a bracket to the back of one of the outer pontoons. If trying to center it better I'd think you'd need to extend the transom sideways, but still tie into one of the pontoons for support.

​@@tomspontoons Yep, think I'll have to go with one of those options. Surprised people don't add a kicker in case they get stranded, especially with all the older 2 stroke pontoons still out there.

@@Boatfisherz1 A lot more electrical bow mount motors on pontoons than gas kickers for sure. Sort of like a typical runabout fiberglass boat...no kicker, just run it and hope the motor gets you back to the dock!

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Best compliment I could ever hope for!! Thank you!!

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Yes, if you use the untreated marine grade made by Roseburg that’s sold at Menards and other stores it will not last. I’ve had more than a handful of people have it get rotten and soft in 2-3 years. Just not made to be exposed to moisture all the time. The CCA treated marine grade has a 30 year warranty. It’s the same stuff the big boat brands have been using for decades.